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Should I take business law during law school for the bar exam?
I never understood the impetus to take a specific class for bar prep purposes given how differently certain subjects may be taught by a particular prof. My business associations course was fairly policy-based with little focus on any bar-tested content (academic led). In contrast, we covered a lot of the bar-related "what does the Act require for X to happen?" type stuff in an unrelated seminar (adjunct led). If you have no intrinsic interest, you would have come out of the former class pretty disappointed to find you just put in so many hours to be nowhere closer to your goal of learning the bar content. But I agree everyone should be taking some business law in law school. Even if you're not working in corporate law, you'll likely be running a business at some point in your career. -
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Accepted to UBC 2024
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Change practice group
You might have to move down a level or two in firm status / size. That is, find a firm where the mere fact you're a [Sister]-trained lawyer is impressive enough for them to hire you, irrespective of your lack of specific experience in finance. That's about all I can think of, assuming an internal move is off the table. -
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Should I take business law during law school for the bar exam?
I am old school, so I believe all law students should take basic business law (and tax, and evidence, and remedies, and family, and wills, and employment -- probably others). It's part of a basic legal education. Having said that, business law is fairly statute-based so it is probably one of the easier ones to "teach yourself" if you have to go that route. Lots of books on the topic.- 2
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Salary research help (Toronto)
That's the thing. There is no "what they usually pay" at small firms. They will pay you the lowest reasonable amount they can negotiate. They may well pay different associates in the same year of call different amounts, particularly as they move up in seniority. If you can somehow gain intelligence on what colleagues in your year of call are making at similarly sized firms, that will be powerful. Otherwise, all you have (as suggested above) is a rough calculation based on a percentage of your expected cash collected. In this case it would be very helpful to also know what the firm sees as its overhead-per-lawyer figure. Does it have nice offices and lots of staff? Finally, if you don't care for negotiation you may be in the wrong profession .... -
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Accepted UAlberta 2024
Accepted with 157 LSAT and L2 around 3.9. I truly did not think this was even possible for me given my LSAT so I'm very grateful and will be accepting my offer.- 3
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Salary research help (Toronto)
My thoughts are similar to QueensDenning, and I also want to point out that an $80k new-call base salary for 1400 collected hours per year isn’t too great of a deal if you’re working in Toronto. Unless the firm you’re working for bills you out for a low rate in the context of Toronto’s market (i.e., ~$170/hour), your base salary will be less than 1/3 of what you collect annually, which is a pretty standard base salary-to-hours collected ratio that you should seek. For reference, the non-Toronto market I work in often charges $200-230 per hour for their new-calls, which would equate to a similar base salary as what you’re asking for at ~1200 collected hours per year. This is fairly standard for the market, and I know of some juniors that are in arrangements making ~$100k base at ~1500 collected hours per year. To give you a better answer, you’d have to provide additional info such as what QueensDenning pointed out. -
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Should I take business law during law school for the bar exam?
Hundreds of people pass every year having never done a single business law class. I'm actually reading through that section of the bar matierals right now and it all seems fine. If you're interested take it, but don't do it for the bar.- 2
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Accepted 2024
someone on discord said that they are waitlisted at 16 but still have not heard back. so yeah the waitlist is around there. -
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Should I take business law during law school for the bar exam?
Hey everyone! I'm still in 2L but as a ~constant worrier~, I've been thinking of ways to maximize my success for the bar exam. I was wondering if I should take business law in my 3L to understand the concepts for the bar exam or if it's feasible for someone without a business background to learn the rules during bar prep. For context, I couldn't even tell you what securities are :') (I know, I'm actually clueless). -
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Rejected 2024
Rejected today. Applied inclusive, with a 78% GPA and a 171 LSAT. -
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Rejected 2024
Rejected this afternoon, definitely anticipated it. 3.98 GPA and 155 LSAT. -
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Why does UofT not take reference letters
I don't know that you're in the minority - reference-checking for a job is entirely different from reference letters for academic admission, for the reasons you cite. "Making sure the person's last boss doesn't say they're an axe murderer" is not the same as "I already have a transcript saying this person's a good student, now let me read a boilerplate letter about how they're a good student."- 2
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Accepted 2024
I’d hope they reached past 11. But, I guess we can’t know unless others who got accepted off the waitlist post on here saying otherwise 😞 -
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Salary research help (Toronto)
Depends on the firm, practice area, definition of what “small” is, etc. You can’t generalize the salaries of all “small firms” based on location.
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