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No Summer Job :(
I see this repeated by lawyers ad nauseam: summer students or articling students don't make money for the firm. This is patently not true for most students, whose work is billed at $100-$200 (or sometimes, dishonestly, even at the counsel rate) but who are paid barely minimum wage, if at all. I've scrutinized the billing of a small firm that seems to survive on student and other low-paid labor; I simply don't see how any small firm would make a loss by hiring an averagely competent student. In many cases, the supervising lawyer spends barely a few minutes every day providing guidance or mentoring, so the cost of mentoring isn't a major factor either. It may only be true for the small minority of students who make an excessive number of mistakes requiring rectification after the student leaves. Even then, clients do not scrutinize their bill in detail and accept paying for the hours spent fixing mistakes, such as amending pleadings, set aside motions etc. The minority of students who cost more than they bill should not lead to the generalization that all students do not make money for the firm. Similarly, the minority of firms that take their responsibility towards students seriously and provide extensive, costly training should not be used to support this generalization. Unless hard evidence justifies the generalization, I think it should not be asserted because it will seem to an objective observer a self-serving justification for exploitatively low pay. This is not a matter that can be resolved by tendering affidavits of lawyers swearing that students cost more than they are worth. There needs to be objective law firm accounting evidence. -
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Accepted 2024
@jeownx it was a 3.9ish I believe for my aGPA which Robson uses. -
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Robson Hall (UManitoba) vs Dal
Thank you @Mal @Conge @GoatDuck. You’ve all made very good points. I believe Robson does offer students the opportunity to do exchange so I may get my out of province experience that way. Taking on more debt than necessary is really not something I am very excited about. I am glad to hear that rankings are basically meaningless and the networking of studying in the province I want to work should be a big deciding factor. Thanks again! -
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Groupchat
There's a discord server made by students. L&L should be setting up the official Facebook group, if they haven't already. -
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Groupchat
I was just wondering if there are any existing Instagram,WhatsApp, or Facebook group chats. If not, at any time will any be made? -
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Waitlisted at Osgoode 2024
If it is any comfort, I am currently in queue as well, since Feb 5. -
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Accepted to UNB 2024!
Accepted today! L2 3.8; LSAT 154; relevant work experience in the legal field & good references. Accepted and paid the deposit today as well since it was my first choice! Looking forward to the fall 🙂 -
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No Summer Job :(
You'll be fine, everyone I know in law school landed an articling job, regardless whether they got a summer job in 2 L or not. Like others have said, get some clinical experience that you can talk about and focus your 2L summer in preparing for articling applications. -
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Ottawa vs. Queens
You certainly won't be limited to Kingston jobs if you go to Queens.- 1
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Waitlisted at Osgoode 2024
Can I ask how did you guys find out? I’m also quite concerned since I didn’t get any sort of status update other than queue. Should that be concerning? -
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Ottawa vs. Queens
Still debating down to the last few days it seems but I would love to get some input! I’m leaning more towards Queens, but they both seem like great schools. I am not sure what kind of law I’m most interested to study but I have a polisci background from university. Community is really important to me, and I would love to experience a close knit community where I go to school. Another thing I would like to prioritize is experiential learning. I would love to participate in clinics or do legal (or non-legal) work on or off campus. I’ve been to both welcome days and I found Queen’s to be a slightly better school, but I loved the city of Ottawa- so I’m split between a good school vs. a good city (with also a good school). My concern with Queens is whether I would be confined to working in Kingston after I graduate, or whether I would be able to find work in other cities. Also, how do courses compare between the two schools? Does Queens (or Ottawa) provide many opportunities to focus on different types of law? If there’s any one attending these schools currently that would like to give me more advice, please let me know, I would love the chance to connect with you. Thank you for any input! -
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Discretionary 2024
Western is a great school. I don't think with UBC it's over until May is over. Discretionary category acceptance are a bit all over the place with stats. So you may have a chance yet. Until then, make every effort to plan for your move to London. I've already secured a residence spot with Oz, I'm planning my summer around the move and thinking about my finances. It's much easier to secure good housing if you apply earlier, at least with York. Until UBC says something, I wholeheartedly plan for a different outcome. Many people from BC go to school in Ontario and come right back. I too will miss the mountains as an outdoors enthusiast. -
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Robson Hall (UManitoba) vs Dal
I don't mean to be snarky, but the only relevant thing to mentioned (to me) is the "triple the cost" comment. If you intend to work in MB, I'd 100% go to UofM. If you don't know, Dal might be a better choice, but a better choice at 3x the cost? I dunno. There would have to be a compelling reason to take on that kind of debt. -
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Robson Hall (UManitoba) vs Dal
Dal won’t give you advantages for working in Manitoba over UofM. The only justifiable reason for you to go to Dal given your goal to practice in Manitoba is the personal fulfilment you’ll get out of living in a different province. I personally think that it is important to experience what it’s like living far away from your family/province at least once in your life. But that’s what it comes down to.- 2
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