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How do legal recruiter services work?
I wanted to add to this discussion - you can work with more than one recruiter but you have to be transparent with them about it. You really don't want multiple recruiters pitching you to the same employer. I previously worked with two recruiters: the first had connections to about 70% of the firms I was interested in, and the second was able to take care of the remaining 30%. -
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Accepted 2024
Opened the portal today to find out my Admission was denied as of yesterday, April 23rd. Making this post for those in a similar situation. Don't give up. It's is not over for you! -
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When do second semester grades usually come out by?
+/- 2 days of when Osgoode grades come out. The schools compete for who is last. Expect sometime during the very last week of May, with a rare chance it may come the week prior.- 1
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When do second semester grades usually come out by?
I know it changes year to year but looking for a rough timeframe over the last few years. -
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Admission 2024 - UDEM
J'ai été accepté en fin février avec une côte R de 34.89. Bonne chance à tous!- 1
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Opinions on the Laurier-Sussex Law Degree Program
You will end up paying way more money, have way more headaches and way less job opportunities if you proceed with Sussex. Those programs are predatory and prey on high school students that don’t know the risks.- 1
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Should I take business law during law school for the bar exam?
I took a few classes covered in the Bar Exams but not all of them. You'll learn what you need to know from the Bar materials and the exams themselves are mostly about how fast you can find information in the materials anyways. The courses I took helped a bit in that I went in somewhat already oriented to the subject matter. With that said, Real Estate was completely different in the Bar materials than what I learned in class (far more emphasis on the practical and less on legal principles). -
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NCA Online learning
Hello HS20, Good day. Yes, I completed the course. I apologize for the delay in responding to you. I did not visit the forum for a long time. After completing the Constitutional Law, I took Admin Law for the Jan-Apr 2024 term, and I completed that, too. The positive side was that the assignment submissions were due every Monday. So I could study on the weekends. But I had to give up all the weekends and evenings on more than one weekday to prepare for the study and assignments. The teacher was excellent and helpful. Answered questions within the next business days. While working full-time, this is doable. I am now thinking of taking two courses in the next term. -
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Should I take business law during law school for the bar exam?
I never understood the impetus to take a specific class for bar prep purposes given how differently certain subjects may be taught by a particular prof. My business associations course was fairly policy-based with little focus on any bar-tested content (academic led). In contrast, we covered a lot of the bar-related "what does the Act require for X to happen?" type stuff in an unrelated seminar (adjunct led). If you have no intrinsic interest, you would have come out of the former class pretty disappointed to find you just put in so many hours to be nowhere closer to your goal of learning the bar content. But I agree everyone should be taking some business law in law school. Even if you're not working in corporate law, you'll likely be running a business at some point in your career. -
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Accepted to UBC 2024
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Change practice group
You might have to move down a level or two in firm status / size. That is, find a firm where the mere fact you're a [Sister]-trained lawyer is impressive enough for them to hire you, irrespective of your lack of specific experience in finance. That's about all I can think of, assuming an internal move is off the table. -
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Should I take business law during law school for the bar exam?
I am old school, so I believe all law students should take basic business law (and tax, and evidence, and remedies, and family, and wills, and employment -- probably others). It's part of a basic legal education. Having said that, business law is fairly statute-based so it is probably one of the easier ones to "teach yourself" if you have to go that route. Lots of books on the topic.- 2
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Salary research help (Toronto)
That's the thing. There is no "what they usually pay" at small firms. They will pay you the lowest reasonable amount they can negotiate. They may well pay different associates in the same year of call different amounts, particularly as they move up in seniority. If you can somehow gain intelligence on what colleagues in your year of call are making at similarly sized firms, that will be powerful. Otherwise, all you have (as suggested above) is a rough calculation based on a percentage of your expected cash collected. In this case it would be very helpful to also know what the firm sees as its overhead-per-lawyer figure. Does it have nice offices and lots of staff? Finally, if you don't care for negotiation you may be in the wrong profession .... -
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Accepted UAlberta 2024
Accepted with 157 LSAT and L2 around 3.9. I truly did not think this was even possible for me given my LSAT so I'm very grateful and will be accepting my offer.- 3
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Salary research help (Toronto)
My thoughts are similar to QueensDenning, and I also want to point out that an $80k new-call base salary for 1400 collected hours per year isn’t too great of a deal if you’re working in Toronto. Unless the firm you’re working for bills you out for a low rate in the context of Toronto’s market (i.e., ~$170/hour), your base salary will be less than 1/3 of what you collect annually, which is a pretty standard base salary-to-hours collected ratio that you should seek. For reference, the non-Toronto market I work in often charges $200-230 per hour for their new-calls, which would equate to a similar base salary as what you’re asking for at ~1200 collected hours per year. This is fairly standard for the market, and I know of some juniors that are in arrangements making ~$100k base at ~1500 collected hours per year. To give you a better answer, you’d have to provide additional info such as what QueensDenning pointed out.
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