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  1. Welcome to the Canadian Law Forum! With the closure of lawstudents.ca, we wanted to create a successor community that was as useful to applicants, students, and lawyers as our former home. We have big shoes to fill! We're hoping that this place, together with our Discord server, can replace what we had originally lost. It may take some time as our knowledge base builds up again. We also wanted to expand things to be useful not only to applicants and students, but to lawyers as well. Many of us have transitioned into practice as junior lawyers and are looking to get advice on our
    47 points
  2. Hi all I officially endorse this product and/or service. D.
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  3. Hey everyone - this will be old hat to many of you, but we've now got our very first "please delete my posts and actually my entire account" request, so here's the obligatory reminder. This forum is brand spanking new. Everyone gets a chance to start over (if they migrated from the old forum) with a fresh slate. Everyone is expected to be civil and post in good faith. Everyone is expected to know how to protect their personal info. Everyone gets an hour to change their mind about any post they make - and then it's up for good. Reasons: 1. For the moment, our two week old communi
    23 points
  4. Big news today. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mahmud-jamal-supreme-court-1.6069406
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  5. Five years ago, I would have agreed with a lot of the takes in this thread. And I was reflecting, recently, on what changed for me. Why did I used to care so much about the preservation of the name “Ryerson” or about Jordan Peterson’s inane thoughts on people’s “right” to misgender people? Why is it that I used to think holistic admissions processes that took into account racism were dumb (and actually harmful for minority students)? More importantly, why don’t I care about those things now? The conclusion I came to was that I was insecure. As someone who easily passes as a me
    14 points
  6. I got a ton of positive feedback when I posted this on lawstudents.ca. It seemed to have helped a number of people, so I'm reposting it here (with revisions). This diagram indicates the total number of applications (starting from the left), which is divided into categories, with final results shown on the right. Full disclosure: I would have sent ~20 fewer applications if not for the global pandemic. I had an articling opportunity lined up and had all but received the formal offer before that firm put a freeze on hiring. While waiting for that freeze to be lifted, I accepted an offer
    14 points
  7. Can't even begin to describe how happy I am that this new community space exists. The old forum had gotten me all the way through to being called to the Bar, and I look forward forward to repaying the favor. Thanks a ton for the work over the last while , @Rynand @TobyFlenderson - the amount of work you've done to keep the community going between this forum and the discord is so, so greatly appreciated. I had posted this in the discord, but this entire situation reminds me of the final Calvin and Hobbes comic. Just message me as needed.
    14 points
  8. We appreciate the time and effort you've dedicated to the community. I'm excited to watch this forum grow into the shoes that LS.ca has left behind. Great to see that so many familiar faces from the Discord and previous forum community are so quickly adopting this new platform. Looking forward to building this community with everybody!
    14 points
  9. I think CleanHands and Hegdis have nailed most of it. But I'll throw my hat in the ring too. I prosecute in a rural office. Probably 99.9% of the defendants are Indigenous. The degree of violence out here borders on cartoonish. Somewhere in between The Wire x Fargo x a Cormac McCarthy novel. What courses did you take in law school that you feel are important? Evidence although bear in mind that evidence as a course is primarily concerned with admissibility. Evidence at a garden variety provincial court trial is generally concerned with weight. As well, any courses related to the
    13 points
  10. This post/thread is an attempt to aggregate helpful information about "Bay St Firms" in an FAQ format for new members of the legal community. I hope others will post similar information and expand the Q&A. Please feel free to submit more questions, answers, and/or both. I am definitely not an expert on any of this and only put this together in about an hour, although I do work on Bay St. Lawstudents.ca helped me many times over the years, so now it is time to give back! Q&A: Q1: What is a Bay St Firm? A: This generally refers to large, "full-service" firms servin
    12 points
  11. There's now a dark theme for you night-time lurkers. You can set it using the Theme dropdown on the site footer.
    12 points
  12. I'm only liking posts from people who got a C+ or lower in law school
    12 points
  13. Former Ontario PC candidate in London has it right:
    12 points
  14. Ad crim pro - All of this is useful for obvious reasons. In particular the bail content helped me hit the ground running and I needed to apply it right away--grounds for detention, the ladder principle, etc. But it's all good and 1L crim focuses on substantive law so you won't learn this stuff in mandatory courses if whatever program you go to was the same as mine. Evidence - So much good stuff here. The W(D) analysis, expert witness qualification, self-incrimination, the Grant s.24(2) Charter exclusion analysis, etc. Sentencing - If your school offers a specific class on this it's
    12 points
  15. Although I think a discussion of what it's like to practice law is always in order here, I'm suspicious of any discussion started by someone with no history here, premised on the claim that even practitioners of law can't be trusted to discuss the topic honestly. I also question what kind of good faith conversation of what things are "really like" starts from predetermining a conclusion, and that anyone who isn't in agreement with that conclusion is part of the general conspiracy to suppress the truth. So, have whatever kind of conversation you want. But I really think you have to pick ei
    11 points
  16. So everything else aside, I am kinda excited that we are having this forum’s first Big Discussion That Pisses Everyone Off. While I vehemently disagree with some of you and very much applaud others, that’s me personally. As a mod/admin person, I consider this a sign of a thriving community. If we can keep it civil and keep addressing arguments we have a good thing going.
    11 points
  17. CleanHands covered a bunch of stuff, so my scattered random bits are just sprinkles on the cake... Most of the people you prosecute will come from some kind of poverty, trauma, or addiction. It's far too easy for our privileged asses to look down on accused people from a great height. So one of the best things you can do is get involved in your community to work with people who deal with these issues so you can see them as people first and appreciate their struggles from a human perspective. Make it a habit to volunteer weekly at a soup kitchen or a food bank, or help newly immigrated fam
    11 points
  18. YES! Well done Ryn and endless thanks.
    11 points
  19. Hi all I did an AMA some time ago and there was quite a lot of information there. But rather than simply link to it - I think someone saved it - I figured I'd give this new forum a chance to create new content. Because quite honestly, I've been doing this longer now, my observations and experiences have evolved, and I probably wouldn't say things the same way anymore. By way of introduction, I practice criminal defence in Toronto, with some related sub-specialties. I have a couple employees now, and I've been in sole practice for about six years. I was doing other things for some yea
    10 points
  20. For reasons entirely unrelated to the Ryerson thread, we need the confused emoji react back. More seriously, I think the confused react was useful for signalling that you disagree with a post without getting into why you disagree. It was also useful for signalling to other users who might not know better that the comment should be scrutinized, or that the advice is questionable. I know there was weird drama about it on the old forum regarding the Palestine thread. However, I think the benefits outweigh the marginal hurt feelings some users apparently felt at having the posts negati
    10 points
  21. I did watch the whole thing. And I am a Gen X, which is to say 40. I have an instinctive distrust of any back-slapping “Yay is we no longer hang black people or imprison gay people”. Not because those things aren’t true, and aren’t progress, but because there’s an undertone of self-congratulation. The single most valuable thing I ever learned is there is no neutral. You guys in or beyond law school remember the debate about the law’s reliance on “the reasonable man” test. I went to Queens in the early 2000s. Professor Trotter - Justice Trotter, I believe he is now - used to c
    10 points
  22. It's nice of you to offer that sort of thing, but I don't really want to set a precedent for people to start soliciting business on this site. I think it's just as helpful, and arguably moreso in many ways, to just generally share your wisdom on the site.
    10 points
  23. Currently a very significant proportion of the userbase on this forum appear to be 0Ls who have received law school acceptances and have yet to attend a single class but are using the "Law Student" tag. People using this tag are even asking school comparison questions and weighing competing offers. I have repeatedly done double takes seeing multiple different users with the "Law Student" tag posting things that anyone who has attended a Canadian law school would know is inaccurate. There is a world of difference between being a 0L and being a 3L (who has actually written law exams, done l
    9 points
  24. I don’t object to having a reaction that means “disagree” (I’d have to find a fitting one) but I’m not sure “confused” is the appropriate one. I feel like using “confused” for disagree is pretty passive aggressive and may, ironically, be confusing in itself, since you’re not using it because you’re confused but because you disagree. I’ll look around to see if I can find something I like.
    9 points
  25. Note: I posted this on lawstudents.ca originally back in February 2020. It seems to have struck a chord with folks and been of some help, so I thought I should post it again here. I know the cyclical pressure and anxiety associated with articling and 2L recruits are starting to ramp up again at this time, so once again I want to make myself available via DM's to anyone who may want to talk about the recruit on an anonymous and confidential basis. Good luck! A preamble: I applied to 40ish firms, got 10 OCIs, 3 in-firms (one with my top choice employer that I had my best OCI wit
    9 points
  26. Historical people are almost always going to be flawed from our perspective. Racist and sexist probably most commonly. Someone like Ryerson who was an advocate for education including of Indigenous people was probably less racist than the average white person of the time. There were anti-slavery advocates who didn't advocate equality only non-slavery and promulgated racist language and ideas; suffragists who were pro-woman but racist (including some of Canada's famous five...), etc. Names of schools etc. aren't carved in stone (even if they literally are...). By all means change them if you wa
    9 points
  27. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
    9 points
  28. @Ryn request for watermelon reacts (and thank you obviously)
    9 points
  29. As ever it's a balance between online reputation and offline identifying info. People figure out which school you re attending pretty quick. Openly appending the exact year to each of your posts is pretty much asking to be doxed - even offline. I think once you've been accepted you can call yourself a law student; I think that's a better indicator than attending a class or a certain number of classes. At the same time, I see the trouble with people perhaps coming across as more knowledgeable than they are. And though it's a short window, it's a key one to many of our posters. So my sugges
    8 points
  30. I think the conversation has moved on a bit but I thought I would just weigh in with my perspective, having worked at both one of the other large national firms and a sister firm. I'll note I work in a specialty practice and am only familiar with the Toronto market, and I recognize that my experience working at one firm in each category (to the extent one even recognizes they are real categories) is not necessarily representative of all of the other firms in the category. That being said, I think my experiences and thoughts are generally been corroborated in conversations I've had with friends
    8 points
  31. “Not actively encouraging apartheid education and cultural genocide” doesn’t strike me as an impossible standard for naming a university after someone whose great accomplishment was... *checks notes*.... helping establish an apartheid education system. But regardless, the easy and obvious solution is to stop naming stuff after historical figures.
    8 points
  32. There's a pretty big difference between some one having done something vaguely distasteful and some one literally aiding and abetting a genocide. Taking the position that "everyone is problematic because humans are problematic" ignores that. There is a matter of degree, and our perspectives are always evolving, but I don't get the outrage over changing the names.
    8 points
  33. I was lurking on the old forum for years. Had an account for years but I think I posted maybe once or twice. Have been practising for a few years in Vancouver now. Looking forward to contributing this time around...
    8 points
  34. This topic was started solely and exclusively to stress-test the new forum.
    8 points
  35. In all seriousness, I'm likely to take a longish break regardless. If the presence of a few veterans here can help lend credibility, I'm glad to lend my name to the effort. But change can be good. It's long past time that some younger folks much closer to law school carried more of the weight. And I don't mean they're shirking at all. I'm glad at all the efforts immediately responding to the forum closer. It's more that they really can't step up completely until some of us get out of their way. And I'm happy to be more of a background presence for a good long while. All the same, this for
    8 points
  36. Things I think helped me: Finding a great mentor early on Developing some niche practice areas early-ish so that I was the "go to" person for questions about XYZ Acting like I intended to stay at the firm long term / vocalizing that I intended to become a partner. Even as a junior associate, I would include a line in my annual review like, "I find my work interesting and engaging, and look forward to continuing to develop my practice with the intention of becoming a partner at the firm" Sitting on committees so that I knew people in other departments - I get a solid c
    7 points
  37. 1) Maybe, but it also happens all the time. Personally I really dislike any suggestion that I'm not committed to my work, so I would have been sensitive (probably overly so) to the impressions of other lawyers if I took a mat leave shortly after joining a firm. In fact, my intention to take a leave was a significant factor that prevented me from looking at other job opportunities in my early-mid associate years - I just couldn't picture moving firms and then within a few months of starting, announcing a pregnancy and taking a year long leave. That said, I see cases all the time where people ta
    7 points
  38. I find being a lawyer tiring, but not very hard. Certainly not any harder than comparable alternatives. However, I may not be your target audience for this question, because: Short of inventing something really useful like post-it notes, my job pays me more than any other job would - any "financial hardships" I might have experienced effectively ended when I started working [note, I still grumble about the cost of housing and daycare, but I definitely wouldn't be able to afford those things if I wasn't a lawyer] Any psychological issues I might have aren't related to my work;
    7 points
  39. Getting into chambers/offices with good lawyers you can trust is probably the best thing you can do for yourself as an inexperienced solo practitioner. It's something I benefit from literally everyday, and is probably the only reason I haven't ruined anyone's life yet.
    7 points
  40. LOL at the thought that anyone with far left views is hanging around here. Almost all of us are bland centrists who see all sides of an issue!
    7 points
  41. Ok. This is the LAST time I'm starting this up. Successor thread of the original thread of lawapps.ca, which was the successor thread of the original thread of ls.ca...
    7 points
  42. Osgoode is around $26,000 a year in tuition. The University of Alberta after the tuition increase is still only around $15,000. If the tuition increase does not apply to you because you're starting before the increase comes into effect then the University of Alberta's tuition is around $11,000-$12,000. Edmonton also has much cheaper rent than Toronto and you will also save money by not having to fly as much. It seems like going to Osgoode would result in an extra $40,000-$70,000 in debt. If you're planning on working in Calgary I do not see this as being a tough decision just based o
    7 points
  43. As I mentioned in my announcement opening the forums, I hate advertising on websites. They're annoying, take up space, and track your behaviour on all the sites that are part of the ad network. Instead, I've set up a Patreon for people to contribute to if they desire, which will hopefully one day cover the costs of running this site. Already, several people have contributed, and I am so incredibly grateful for their support! In recognition, I've designated all contributors of $5 or more as Supporters on the forum. They get a special username colour and a supporter's badge on their posts a
    7 points
  44. Well, that’s quite the false equivalency. Ryerson was no Hitler; he was one of the most influential proponents of free education in Ontario. The proper blame for the abuses Indigenous people suffered in residential schools lies with the people who committed them. Ryerson had nothing to do with those abuses and is being scapegoated for what other people did long after his death with the education system he proposed. More info: https://nationalpost.com/opinion/opinion-egerton-ryerson-has-been-falsely-accused-of-trying-to-erase-indigenous-culture
    7 points
  45. I normally will not be posting something like this in advance of a topic being discussed, but I'm just going to ask that any discussion is handled with a proper amount of care and respect. It's both a controversial topic, and also one that brings up related concerns around xenophobia and AAPI hate. Not saying that any of that has happened, but let's just handle this properly.
    7 points
  46. Amazing. So many people coming over. I'm sure it will take time to approach the atmosphere of the old place, but it's a promising start. I've moved from lawbuzz to yuku lawbuzz to lawstudents.ca, and now here, so it's nothing new for me.
    7 points
  47. And of course, the founding moment of Morgan LLP. (Morgan LLP logo by @canuckfanatic)
    7 points
  48. Thanks everyone for your shout-outs and kind words! I’m glad to see many familiar names here, and some new ones too!
    7 points
  49. To quote Community, oh, you made me so happy I just peed a little. My face can't stop grinning after hearing that familiar "ding" when a new reply was made!
    7 points
  50. It's not difficult if you have connections in the legal market and/or are willing to work for no pay or close to minimum wage. There are many employers out there that take advantage of law students and foreign trained lawyers and will not provide you with a good experience overall. For the best legal positions, you are competing with Canadian law school grads who employers generally favour over foreign students. If you have connections to a small town or city where you have lived all your life, and can network with employers in your area, then it makes it easier for you to find a job. If
    6 points
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