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Ghalm
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Hi, I recently graduated from UofT Law. The previous forum had a number of posts where UofT students and/or recent graduates tried to answer questions from incoming UofT Law students or current students who might want the perspective of someone a few years ahead... So... feel free to ask any kind of question and at the very least I will try to give my opinion - and maybe some other UofT Law students/alumni will chime in too 🙂

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LSTrailers
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Thanks for this! Do you know anything about doing a directed research paper? Specifically, is it graded on the P, H, HH scale? Do you need to independently reach out to a prof to supervise you, or do you just sign up through normal course registration?

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FriendlyMemeGuy493
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How'd you find the social life/community? As a current UofT undergrad I know everybody clowns us for having a poor social life but I presume it may be different when it comes to UT law. Did you find it easy to make a group of friends? 

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Ghalm
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18 hours ago, LSTrailers said:

Thanks for this! Do you know anything about doing a directed research paper? Specifically, is it graded on the P, H, HH scale? Do you need to independently reach out to a prof to supervise you, or do you just sign up through normal course registration?

I do not actually know whether the directed research paper is graded on the letter grade scale or not. I did not personally do this. However, two of my friends did. You will have to double check with the Records Office, but I believe they had to reach out to a member of the teaching faculty to request supervision. It is not through normal course registration. If memory serves me correctly, you have to reach out, and then you have to submit your proposal (after getting a prof. to agree to supervise you) to a committee or to the Records Office so they can determine whether project meets their criteria. Depending on how big the proposed paper, the more credits you will get (I think, do not quote me). I recall these tidbits because I actually wish I did this program when I was a student. It seems like a great way to build on a paper you wrote in your small group in 1L or for a seminar course in another year. It can help produce a high-quality paper (I think the intent is for the paper to be of publishable quality) that you can submit to journals (which is good on its own even if you do not plan on being a scholar). I also heard its totally chill and not a lot of pressure - and if you are researching/writing on a topic you like - it is enjoyable!

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Ghalm
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17 hours ago, FriendlyMemeGuy493 said:

How'd you find the social life/community? As a current UofT undergrad I know everybody clowns us for having a poor social life but I presume it may be different when it comes to UT law. Did you find it easy to make a group of friends? 

I also went to UofT as an undergrad. I would say the social life is night and day. UT Law is like a fancy high school with a bunch of people eager to make friends and enjoy their three years together. Right away at the start of 1L, people were quickly and easily making friends with each other. And these friendships, from the looks of it and from personable experience, lasted throughout the years and past graduation. There are weekly events like call to the bar that many people attend to have fun. I didn't really attend those because I was a commuter and I do not drink. But, beyond that, there were many occasions where you just go have lunch with friends, or have a low-key hang out in the evening, or attend a birthday/no-reason party/gathering. I did find it easy to make friends. You have a very big common interest among each other (law), and there are like 200 students in the class so you are bound to find a few or a bunch that you vibe with on a personality level!

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FriendlyMemeGuy493
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4 hours ago, Ghalm said:

I also went to UofT as an undergrad. I would say the social life is night and day. UT Law is like a fancy high school with a bunch of people eager to make friends and enjoy their three years together. Right away at the start of 1L, people were quickly and easily making friends with each other. And these friendships, from the looks of it and from personable experience, lasted throughout the years and past graduation. There are weekly events like call to the bar that many people attend to have fun. I didn't really attend those because I was a commuter and I do not drink. But, beyond that, there were many occasions where you just go have lunch with friends, or have a low-key hang out in the evening, or attend a birthday/no-reason party/gathering. I did find it easy to make friends. You have a very big common interest among each other (law), and there are like 200 students in the class so you are bound to find a few or a bunch that you vibe with on a personality level!

Great! Good to know UT law doesn't have the same UofTears vibe

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notnotadog
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23 hours ago, LSTrailers said:

Thanks for this! Do you know anything about doing a directed research paper? Specifically, is it graded on the P, H, HH scale? Do you need to independently reach out to a prof to supervise you, or do you just sign up through normal course registration?

I know very very few people who did a DRP and didn’t HH. Those that I do know of did it during this Covid year where there were an unprecedented amount of DRPs. It’s a great grades hack but it can really suck. I don’t even know if my supervisor actually read my paper.

And to confirm: you reach out to a prof and they say yes then you submit a research proposal to the records office that they sign off on.

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Twenty
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On 6/10/2021 at 9:03 PM, notnotadog said:

I know very very few people who did a DRP and didn’t HH. Those that I do know of did it during this Covid year where there were an unprecedented amount of DRPs. It’s a great grades hack but it can really suck. I don’t even know if my supervisor actually read my paper.

And to confirm: you reach out to a prof and they say yes then you submit a research proposal to the records office that they sign off on.

I'm interested in knowing what you think the cons are. I'm also curious as to how you decided on your research topic. I really want to do a DRP, but it seems like whenever I think of a research topic, (1) there is already a paper written on it, (2) seems like it can be answered in a few pages, or (3) its super niche/making a mountain out of a molehill. 

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notnotadog
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28 minutes ago, Twenty said:

I'm interested in knowing what you think the cons are. I'm also curious as to how you decided on your research topic. I really want to do a DRP, but it seems like whenever I think of a research topic, (1) there is already a paper written on it, (2) seems like it can be answered in a few pages, or (3) its super niche/making a mountain out of a molehill. 

It sucks because a DRP is very self-motivated, so it can be easy to push it off but simultaneously feel like you should be working on it. You also often doubt yourself and whether you’re making any sense. If you ask a supervisor and they say yes, they can talk through your idea with you and tell you how to modify it, etc. But it’s super hit or miss: some supervisors rock, some suck. I met with mine once and I got very few comments from them.

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HammurabiTime
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On 6/10/2021 at 5:48 PM, Ghalm said:

UT Law is like a fancy high school with a bunch of people eager to make friends and enjoy their three years together.

The high school metaphor is very apt, along with much of the nonsense you'd expect of high school students.

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JohnAppleseed
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Thanks for taking the time. How hard is it to transfer? I plan on transferring from Queen’s. What would be the minimum req. GPA?

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Ben
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4 hours ago, JohnAppleseed said:

Thanks for taking the time. How hard is it to transfer? I plan on transferring from Queen’s. What would be the minimum req. GPA?

Honestly I can't imagine how anyone who goes here would know that lol, unless one of the few transfers is on this forum. You should try reaching out to people who transferred, or contacting the school directly. 

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