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Gamgee
  • Law Student
Posted

 

Hi All, 

Moved the below collected info from old form to reddit wiki and now hopefully to its final resting spot. No guarantees are made on its accuracy or any future changes that may impact how everything is calculated. Please reach out to the university & admissions directly if you have any questions or need confirmation. 

Official timelines, dates for deadlines, last LSAT accepted, application costs, etc. can be found on the university's website: https://allard.ubc.ca

Grading Scale:

UBC uses a percentage GPA scale for determining admissions and will convert your grades to their scale. The amount of credits is your cGPA after drops. 

Withdrawn courses that are on your transcript may be counted towards your drops. Contact UBC's law admissions to confirm and receive the latest information. 

Drops:

UBC excludes the 12 worst credits for individuals with a 4 year degree, which is usually equivalent to 4 semester long courses or 2 full year long courses. Applicants applying in their third year will have 6 worst credits excluded. 

If the applicant is currently enrolled in their final year, those credits are not counted towards the GPA. 

Grade Conversion: Below is a table to calculate your GPA equivalent (whether on 4.0 or 4.33 scale), in "Useful Links" is a link to the source for this table. The grade in each course is converted and then averaged. 

Percentage GPA (4.33 Scale)
90 4.33
89 4.3
88 4.2
87 4.1
86 4
85 3.95
84 3.9
83 3.85
82 3.8
81 3.75
80 3.7
79 3.6
78 3.5
77 3.4
76 3.3
75 3.2
74 3.1
73 3
72 2.95
71 2.9
70 2.8
69 2.7
68 2.65
67 2.6
66 2.55
65 2.5
64 2.4
63 2.3
62 2.2
61 2.1
60 2
59 1.9
58 1.8
57 1.7
56 1.6
55 1.5
54 1.4
53 1.3
52 1.2
51 1.1
50 1

LSAT:

UBC takes an applicant's best LSAT score

Index Formula:

(0.2678 * GPA Percentage) + (0.1986 * LSAT Score) + 36.5952

Example: (0.2678 * 90) + (0.1986 * 165) + 36.5952 = 93.47 .. then 93.47 is the index score of someone with a 90% GPA and 165 LSAT score.

Auto Admissions:

Historically, auto admissions have been an index score of 92. This does not mean in the future the auto admissions will always remain at these values and you should use this only as a relative reference of competitiveness based on historic data.

If you are below the auto admissions cut-off it doesn't mean you will not have a chance, but it appears being above the auto admission cut-off gives you a very strong chance.

The auto-admissions range primarily is for first year JD general applicants. Indigenous applicants and discretionary applicants may have different requirements. Always confirm and check with the university if you have any questions.

Median LSAT & GPA of Successful General Applicants:

LSAT: 166 (93%) | GPA: 83%

Useful Links:

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SYANG09
  • Applicant
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I'm a bit lost on the auto admissions part as I cannot find it on ubc's website. Were students guaranteed a seat in the past if they marked above the index scored, regardless how their softs or ps were? 

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UBC
  • Law School Admit
Posted

@SYANG09 Admissions has never explicitly acknowledged whether an auto-admission threshold exists or not. The 92+ index cutoff is something students and applicants figured out themselves using the stats of admitted students going back to 2011.

I do recall somebody on the old forum claiming that when they visited Allard IRL and spoke to admissions, they saw a spreadsheet that listed applicant stats from highest to lowest and included a large red line (presumably at the 92 index mark separating the applicants getting offers from those getting waitlisted/rejected). However, this is all conjecture.

1 hour ago, SYANG09 said:

Were students guaranteed a seat in the past if they marked above the index scored

Usually. Though in recent years there were sometimes a few high index applicants who were rejected due to applying late or horribly bungling their personal profiles.

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SYANG09
  • Applicant
Posted
9 minutes ago, UBC said:

@SYANG09 Admissions has never explicitly acknowledged whether an auto-admission threshold exists or not. The 92+ index cutoff is something students and applicants figured out themselves using the stats of admitted students going back to 2011.

I do recall somebody on the old forum claiming that when they visited Allard IRL and spoke to admissions, they saw a spreadsheet that listed applicant stats from highest to lowest and included a large red line (presumably at the 92 index mark separating the applicants getting offers from those getting waitlisted/rejected). However, this is all conjecture.

Usually. Though in recent years there were sometimes a few high index applicants who were rejected due to applying late or horribly bungling their personal profiles.

Thanks for the info 🤟

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UBC excludes the 12 worst credits for individuals with a 4 year degree, which is usually equivalent to 4 semester long courses or 2 full year long courses. Applicants applying in their third year will have 6 worst credits excluded. 

If the applicant is currently enrolled in their final year, those credits are not counted towards the GPA. 

Just for clarification - if I am a 4th year student (enrolled in my final year), UBC will exclude my 12 worst credits AND not count my 4th year credits until I graduate?

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RickyJulian
  • Applicant
Posted

Hi, I too am a little bit confused on the 4th year/last year credit drops. My current situation is: I am a UBC student and I am enrolled in the current fall semester (Sept-Dec). I currently have 90 credits, but by the end of this semester in December I will have 105 credits. I am in my last year. I am taking 5 classes this current fall semester. Would they not count this fall semester? Also, would I be eligible for the 12 credit drops? If so, what classes would be included in the calculation, would they drop 12 credits based on my 90 credits if they won’t count my current fall semester? Any information would be appreciated, thanks!

Renerik
  • Law Student
Posted
15 hours ago, RickyJulian said:

Hi, I too am a little bit confused on the 4th year/last year credit drops. My current situation is: I am a UBC student and I am enrolled in the current fall semester (Sept-Dec). I currently have 90 credits, but by the end of this semester in December I will have 105 credits. I am in my last year. I am taking 5 classes this current fall semester. Would they not count this fall semester? Also, would I be eligible for the 12 credit drops? If so, what classes would be included in the calculation, would they drop 12 credits based on my 90 credits if they won’t count my current fall semester? Any information would be appreciated, thanks!

In your case, Allard will only consider your grades from first through third year. They will not look at the grades you'll receive this term.

They'll drop 12 from your current 90 credits.

 

RickyJulian
  • Applicant
Posted

@Renerik Thanks for the clarification. I called UBC earlier today as well. Bummer, was looking forward to including fall grades but first 90 credits will be fine too.

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Hey all! I have a quick question -- I go to a school that is on a 4.0 scale, based on UBCs convertor, they convert 4.0 and 4.33 scales the exact same way which seems really odd because it is scaling my grades down significantly. I emailed admissions and they told me that that is what I'm supposed to do to get my "UBC" GPA but I'm just really confused because it seems like people who go to schools with 4.33 scales have a huge advantage. Even a 4.0 is only an 86% so that's the best grade somebody from a 4.0 school could apply with? 

Has anybody else had this issue or have any clarification regarding this? 

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Future Law Student
  • Applicant
Posted

Hi! I am in the same boat. I have an international undergrad so with WES conversion I have a 4.0 on 4.0 scale.
 

I reached out to them with the same concern that anyone on a 4.0 scale can only attain 86% at max. They asked me to send my original undergrad transcripts which has straight percent points. It converts to 90% with drops.

So, my suggestion will be - if your school provides you with a conversion scale (GPA vs Percentage) provide them with that one for reference. 

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spring
  • Applicant
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I am in a similar situation in terms of GPA calculation. My undergrad is in US and we only use a GPA scale up to 4.0. After I talked with UBC admission, I was informed that even with A+s, my highest CGPA will be 86%.. So compared to people who graduate from UBC with A and A+s, my chance of getting in is significantly lowered by this GPA calculation.. 

sweetiepie37974
  • Applicant
Posted
1 hour ago, spring said:

I am in a similar situation in terms of GPA calculation. My undergrad is in US and we only use a GPA scale up to 4.0. After I talked with UBC admission, I was informed that even with A+s, my highest CGPA will be 86%.. So compared to people who graduate from UBC with A and A+s, my chance of getting in is significantly lowered by this GPA calculation.. 

If it makes you feel any better, I went to UBC for undergrad and my average with drops is 85.7%, so I’m sitting below the giant bubble of the 4.0-ers at 86%😅

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incoming1LIhope
  • Applicant
Posted

Hi everyone,

I am new to this forum so not sure if I should post here - please let me know if I am in the wrong spot!! 

I am trying to calculate my UBC GPA for my application, and I am unsure how to proceed. My transcript only has letter grades, but I don't see a conversion chart anywhere so I am uncertain how I am supposed to fill out the excel document. I have reached out but I am worried they won't gave back to me on time. Does anyone know what I am supposed to do? Thank you so much

Dplk
  • Law Student
Posted

I'm pretty sure every letter grade is calculated as the lowest percentage grade in that category. So every A+ is calculated as 90%, every A is calculated as 85%, every A- is calculated as 80%.

I went to a college for a semester that only provided letter grades and UBC Admissions told me my grades from there would be calculated as described above. If there's a way to see the percentage grades then they will use those. 

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westcoast
Posted

Hi, does anyone know if UBC admissions uses % grades or GPA point grades from your transcript when both are available? I’m from UVic where our transcripts have both, but using the % instead of GPA points results in a much higher converted GPA since nothing gets rounded down. 
thanks!

Dplk
  • Law Student
Posted
On 1/30/2025 at 8:26 AM, westcoast said:

Hi, does anyone know if UBC admissions uses % grades or GPA point grades from your transcript when both are available? I’m from UVic where our transcripts have both, but using the % instead of GPA points results in a much higher converted GPA since nothing gets rounded down. 
thanks!

They'll use the percentage grade if they're on the transcript

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