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Whitecollarcrime

Hi all,

I an AML investigator at a private consulting company contemplating about going into a law school with an end goal of becoming a crown prosecutor.  I am completely new to the forum and blind to how the industry works. That being said, I have a few questions I was hoping to get the community's input. 

  • Is there a such thing as a white-collar crown prosecutor in Canada? 
    • If yes, what is the overall process of becoming one?
  • What are some of the resources available to learn about the career path of a crown prosecutor?

 

Thank you all! 

 

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CleanHands
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I have spoken to a few Crowns who have worked on major white collar cases, including some of the largest fraud cases in Canadian history. They all started as general provincial Crown prosecutors and ended up becoming (mostly but not exclusively) niche fraud prosecutors because they were interested in it and good at it. Those files are pains in the ass so generally if you want them your chief and colleagues would be happy for them to be assigned to you.

But yeah, they were all prosecutors first and fraud lawyers second. Maybe some provinces operate differently, I dunno. But I'd be very surprised if you could become a specialized fraud prosecutor without first putting in your dues with generalized prosecution experience. Fraud cases tend to be especially difficult to prosecute so first you need a basic foundation for how to work cases and secure convictions (even if you have special training on how fraud in particular works).

I wouldn't recommend aspiring to be a Crown with the intention and interest of working on one narrow subset of criminal files, though. You really need to like criminal law, first and foremost.

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QueensDenning
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would probably be easier to work in corporate/corporate litigation helping clients get around allegations of fraud 

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2 hours ago, CleanHands said:

niche fraud prosecutors because they were interested in it and good at it. Those files are pains in the ass so generally if you want them your chief and colleagues would be happy for them to be assigned to you.

Agreed. Fraud trials are tedious and tend to be an exercise in the management of voluminous documentary disclosure, as much as anything else. 

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CleanHands
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13 minutes ago, realpseudonym said:

Agreed. Fraud trials are tedious and tend to be an exercise in the management of voluminous documentary disclosure, as much as anything else. 

That and elements tend to be way harder to prove than for most offences because the schemes can get very convoluted and the knowledge and intentions of involved parties can be really muddy. And then after dealing with the massive volume of disclosure and finding the needles in the haystack that satisfy the elements, the sentences tend to be really light. So it's a huge amount of work for little payoff.

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TheDevilIKnow
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I am only halfway through the "Securities Regulation" course, and not doing particularly well, at it, so the following question might be stupid but oh well:

Would work for a securities commission be a reasonably good alternative for OP's interests? Not criminal, but still sort of "prosecuting" a variety of white-collar activities that can be (loosely) considered fraud. Might be a good way to essentially get what you're looking for, without going the Crown route and without having to learn all the rest of the criminal law (very little of which you will learn in your mandatory crim course).

The reason I am unsure about this suggestion is that we haven't covered the "enforcement" unit of the course yet, so I don't really know what the process looks like.

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14 minutes ago, TheDevilIKnow said:

I am only halfway through the "Securities Regulation" course, and not doing particularly well, at it, so the following question might be stupid but oh well:

Would work for a securities commission be a reasonably good alternative for OP's interests? Not criminal, but still sort of "prosecuting" a variety of white-collar activities that can be (loosely) considered fraud. Might be a good way to essentially get what you're looking for, without going the Crown route and without having to learn all the rest of the criminal law (very little of which you will learn in your mandatory crim course).

The reason I am unsure about this suggestion is that we haven't covered the "enforcement" unit of the course yet, so I don't really know what the process looks like.

The OSC is an option - https://www.osc.ca/en/enforcement. Bear in mind that there is very high turnover there. It's the one government employer that consistently has new job openings. You are working Bay Street hours for a government salary, so it is not for everyone. 

Here is a sample job posting.

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Working in a dynamic, fast-paced environment on a multi-disciplinary team, as Litigation Counsel, you will support investigations by conducting legal research, examining files for potential breaches of Ontario securities law by identifying important legal issues and assisting in the formulation of a strategy for successful investigations. You will analyze and evaluate evidence to determine whether violations have occurred and exercise professional judgment in making recommendations for appropriate action. You will prosecute Securities Act violations before the Commission and Commercial List.
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Whitecollarcrime

@CleanHands @QueensDenning @realpseudonym Thank you so much for your thoughts! 

3 hours ago, CleanHands said:

I wouldn't recommend aspiring to be a Crown with the intention and interest of working on one narrow subset of criminal files, though. You really need to like criminal law, first and foremost.

This is something I would definitely have to think about. Thank you all.

20 minutes ago, TheDevilIKnow said:

I am only halfway through the "Securities Regulation" course, and not doing particularly well, at it, so the following question might be stupid but oh well:

Would work for a securities commission be a reasonably good alternative for OP's interests? Not criminal, but still sort of "prosecuting" a variety of white-collar activities that can be (loosely) considered fraud. Might be a good way to essentially get what you're looking for, without going the Crown route and without having to learn all the rest of the criminal law (very little of which you will learn in your mandatory crim course).

The reason I am unsure about this suggestion is that we haven't covered the "enforcement" unit of the course yet, so I don't really know what the process looks like.

I would also be interested to know what the process looks like.

 

 

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Vizslaw
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1 hour ago, realpseudonym said:

Agreed. Fraud trials are tedious and tend to be an exercise in the management of voluminous documentary disclosure, as much as anything else. 

This is exactly how I learned about the glory that was the 540 Statement at a Preliminary Inquiry as a Federal Crown (once upon a time) prosecuting bankruptcy and mortgage frauds.

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