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QueensDenning
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Would you recommend taking admin law during 3L (as someone interested in the L&E department of the large firm where I'll be articling)? 

Seems a little dry, but I don't want to pass on the class if it would help me in practice. 

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BuckDancer
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59 minutes ago, QueensDenning said:

Would you recommend taking admin law during 3L (as someone interested in the L&E department of the large firm where I'll be articling)? 

Seems a little dry, but I don't want to pass on the class if it would help me in practice. 

100%, as a junior labour and employment lawyer I wish I could take admin law all over again lol. 

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Chief Keef
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Any advice for a 2022 call working in general litigation who is interested in transitioning into management-side L&E sometime in the new year? Do the management-side L&E firms like Hicks Morley/Filion Wakely/Matthews Dinsdale often hire people who only have litigation experience?

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Bob Jones
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On 11/14/2022 at 8:30 PM, Chief Keef said:

Any advice for a 2022 call working in general litigation who is interested in transitioning into management-side L&E sometime in the new year? Do the management-side L&E firms like Hicks Morley/Filion Wakely/Matthews Dinsdale often hire people who only have litigation experience?

It's harder to make that transition to one of the bigger shops you just referenced. Try and get as much Management-side L&E work as you can, that will really help your application. Keep your eyes open for openings and try cold-emailing these firms once you've hit the 1 year mark, but be prepared for what can feel like a discouraging process. Possible, but difficult this early on. Helps if you have really good grades though, as a lot of applications at bigger firms will require your grades for the first 5-10 years of practice. 

On 8/31/2022 at 12:16 PM, BuckDancer said:

100%, as a junior labour and employment lawyer I wish I could take admin law all over again lol. 

To add to this, the appellate level work you will inevitably get involved with will have you drafting factums/making submissions, a portion of which deal with the various standards of review to justify seeking leave to appeal to the ONCA (as an example). In addition, you will likely be getting involved with regulatory issues and potential appeals regarding those decisions, or appeals/JRs relating to grievance arbitrations, so Admin Law will kick in at some point. Having a decent background in Admin Law will be helpful. 

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21 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

To add to this, the appellate level work you will inevitably get involved with will have you drafting factums/making submissions, a portion of which deal with the various standards of review to justify seeking leave to appeal to the ONCA (as an example). In addition, you will likely be getting involved with regulatory issues and potential appeals regarding those decisions, or appeals/JRs relating to grievance arbitrations, so Admin Law will kick in at some point. Having a decent background in Admin Law will be helpful. 

I did a lot of this when I was at the firm. Admin law is essential to get into any sort of more complex employment law work.

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