Toronto Articling ITC/PFO 2023

[sas97]

I'm starting to feel like this recruit is a dud for me. I'm hoping to be surprised tommorrow but no ITCs as of yet. Not sure where I went wrong or if this year is exceptionally competitive. 

Edited July 20, 2023 by sas97

[95tillinfinity]

ITC from Ministry of Labour, and the Office of the Public Guardian and Trustee 

[practitionerpak]

16 minutes ago, chaboywb said:

Assert dominance in your interview by pointing this out, preferably with a laminated copy in hand.

This city is too expensive for laminated copies. I will have to settle for a screenshot on my phone. 

[Sylvester]

is call day the same for MAG articles ? July 21 at 8 am? 

[sarcasticlemon]

ITC Springing (guys clear this is a sign it really isn’t over til it’s over. To my fellow PFO collecting friends, there’s hope ❤️ )

[Kevinwest]

On 7/11/2023 at 3:21 PM, RecruitGains said:

Anybody heard from Ridout & Maybee?

Yah, on the 17th… 👌

3 hours ago, lawstudent_6 said:

ITC from Clyde and Co this morning.

Who didn’t 

[sarcasticlemon]

5 minutes ago, Kevinwest said:

Yah, on the 17th… 👌

Who didn’t 

Hi Kevin, 

Many people didn’t. That’s why this forum exists, so people can know who has sent out results and feel free to post their results free of judgement. 
 

Edited July 20, 2023 by sarcasticlemon

[LMP]

10 minutes ago, Kevinwest said:

Yah, on the 17th… 👌

Who didn’t 

First post here and already off to a terrible start. Good work! 

[lawuo]

Does anyone have an idea about how many people firms can realistically interview?

[sarcasticlemon]

18 minutes ago, lawuo said:

Does anyone have an idea about how many people firms can realistically interview?

My school recommends doing a maximum of 6-8 over the two days. 
 

Approx. 4 slots per day, 8am-10am, 11pm-1pm, 2pm-3pm , 3pm-4pm. But this also assumes in person interviews, and needing travel time. 
 

edit: whoops read the question wrong. Thought you were asking how many a student should schedule 

ITC FCL LLP

Edited July 20, 2023 by sarcasticlemon

[LMP]

5 minutes ago, lawuo said:

Does anyone have an idea about how many people firms can realistically interview?

My firm is interviewing about 18 people. 

[Legallybrxwn]

7 minutes ago, lawuo said:

Does anyone have an idea about how many people firms can realistically interview?

I think it depends, I've been told the sweet spot is 4-6. Consider if the firms you are interviewing with do callbacks for 2nd and 3rd round interviews. If they do, you probably don't want to have your day 2 and 3 fully booked or you would have to consider cancelling interviews if need be. 

*oops sorry I read that wrong I just realized

Edited July 20, 2023 by Legallybrxwn

[loonie]

3 minutes ago, lawuo said:

Does anyone have an idea about how many people firms can realistically interview?

From what I understand, the process is somewhat similar to if you got an in-firm interview during the 2L recruit. So, it may be helpful to refer to the ultra vires report on 2L in-firm interview numbers. The average ratio for applicants that interview to jobs is roughly between 4:1 to 6:1. That number can be skewed however depending on the firm. Also, it does not necessarily account for applicants that may have received an offer but chose elsewhere. 

[KingoftheBritons]

This might be a stupid question... but what happens if two firms call at once? I'm only expecting one at 8:00 am but am hoping for more to come in. Do i need to call back right away if I'm on the line with someone else? 

[secunda]

12 minutes ago, KingoftheBritons said:

This might be a stupid question... but what happens if two firms call at once? I'm only expecting one at 8:00 am but am hoping for more to come in. Do i need to call back right away if I'm on the line with someone else? 

Not at all a stupid question - I believe you are able to call them back once you finish up the call with who you were speaking with! I am not sure if this is helpful, but maybe have several numbers on hand of the firms you applied to ready, so that you're ready to call them back ASAP if just directly returning the call doesn't work.

Edited July 20, 2023 by secunda

[goldensnitch]

This might also be a stupid question, but is it good practice to respond to ITC emails? I've seen online advice that says no, just wait for the call, and had others say that replying and name recognition is great. Any input is appreciated, thanks! 

Edited July 20, 2023 by goldensnitch

[RecruitGains]

How many rounds of interviews does the articling recruit usually comprise of?

[lawstudent1407]

Lerners ITC

[95tillinfinity]

Lerners ITC (email, just now) 

 

[ribbitbibbit]

kim spencer mcphee itc

[everythingbagel]

a few words of call day wisdom from someone who went through this process not that long ago & who is now on the other side doing interviews:

1) don’t give up if you don’t get any/many ITCs! lots of employers don’t do them. i even got at least one call from an office that *does* send out ITCs but didn’t send me one (presumably some of their initial candidates declined interviews).

2) if more than one office calls you at the same time, the one who doesn’t get through will almost always leave a message. i had one office email me asking me to call them back. 

3) make sure you have something handy to note down what times you’ve scheduled interviews and exactly how long they are (i only did govt interviews and almost all were 1h but some were 30min and some were 90min). 

4) most govt employers will only have one round of interviews (sometimes with an additional assignment). my friends interviewing at firms had up to 5 interviews/“chats” over the 3 days. 

if anyone has any questions feel free to shoot me a msg!

[Allegretto87]

Have any other crim firms apart from Derstine Penman sent out an ITC?

[lawschoolhelpme2020]

Anyone else without ITCs. I am feeling distraught and wondering what exactly happened with the 20 places I applied to and if there is a chance of getting a single call tomorrow

[Allegretto87]

Ok so initial interview days are august14 and 15 or just august 14?

[Wounded wrist]

52 minutes ago, lawschoolhelpme2020 said:

Anyone else without ITCs. I am feeling distraught and wondering what exactly happened with the 20 places I applied to and if there is a chance of getting a single call tomorrow

We are in the same boat! And I know it's not over until it's over so keep the hope alive! 💪🏽