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We have similar stats. I was admitted to Queen's this cycle with a 161 LSAT. Like @Chewy said, try to aim as high as possible to maximize your chances of acceptance. You and I don't really have the most competitive GPA, so it would be best to try to compensate with a higher LSAT. Best of luck! -
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Best advice is literally to aim for the highest LSAT score possible. I find Canadian law schools to be somewhat unpredictable these recent years with their stats. With all the law schools you have listed, some may put more weight on the LSAT as opposed to the GPA (vice versa). Some schools also look at the application as a whole, holistically. Your GPA seems to be competitive for some schools, but if you bomb that LSAT, the GPA may not do you any good. So, take your time with the LSAT and aim for the highest score. From there, work on your applications etc. -
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Hi everyone, Congratulations to you all on your acceptance. I will also be starting Western Law this September. My aunt, who is a nurse, and her husband, an IT professional at Centennial College have a newly renovated 2 bedroom apartment for rent in Kingston. Everything in the apartment is brand new. It's 18 minutes walk to Queen's University Faculty of Law, 17 minutes by bus and 4 minutes drive to the Faculty. If you are interested please message me and I will send you more info including the link and their contact information. Thanks and enjoy the summer before the journey begins. -
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This GPA will put you at a disadvantage for non-B2 Ontario schools. Not an insurmountable disadvantage, but a disadvantage. I would feel pretty confident that you would get in somewhere if you applied to every common-law school in Canada with your GPA and a 160 LSAT. But "competitive for most schools" (defined as "likely having a fair amount of choice if you applied to every common-law school in Canada") probably requires like a 164, 165. And there are some schools where you likely still would not be competitive with a score like that. Just aim to do as well on the LSAT as you can and see where that gets you. -
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Hello everyone. I hope you all are well. I am new to the Canada Law Forum. I just graduated from the University of Waterloo with an 82.10% which is considered a distinction at Uwaterloo. Upon calculating my GPA using the OLAS calculator, here are my stats as follows. I just wanted to know if this GPA is competitive for most schools. Also, I am yet to give the LSAT and plan on applying for the 2024 cycle. Please let me know your thoughts. I also have done various internships in Human Resources. Cumulative GPA (CGPA):3.50 Last two years (L2):3.47 Last three years (L3):3.57 Best two years (B2):3.77 Best three years (B3):3.64 -
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How detrimental is it to not specialize in one area of law by 3L?
I found it funny that @Judgelight would attempt to derail any discussion where anyone made the point @Hegdis did above, by chiming in with "I did absolutely nothing whatsoever to demonstrate any interest in criminal law throughout law school and got hired as a Crown, so YMMV" when every other post of his was bitching about his pay and workload (while working a second job) and how much he hates his job in general. Because he's a living example of exactly why any criminal law employer who has any idea what they are doing avoids hiring someone like him, and he proved the point. -
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Is Queen's an "old boys club"?
Haven't experienced anything like this. Yes, there are alot of white students (50-60%?) but that is sort of reflective of Canada's demographics and I did not feel any "old boy" vibe sure there are well-off people but I feel like you can find that at any law program. -
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How detrimental is it to not specialize in one area of law by 3L?
I'll chime in with a different perspective, just for others who may be reading. OP, given your interests, this doesn't apply to you, but it's something others might want to keep in mind. If any of you want to do criminal law, either as a defence lawyer or a Crown, you need to show a convincing interest in criminal law in school. I wouldn't hire anyone who hadn't taken Crim Pro, Evidence, and had some kind of clinical or mooting or volunteer experience proving they actually intend to spend time and effort outside of the minimum to pursue this area out of a sincere, authentic interest. The reason I would be looking for those things is because a lot of law students, perhaps bamboozled by the OCI experience, have this silly hierarchy in their head wherein corporate law is at top and criminal is at the bottom. Having failed to get a corporate job, for some students, there's this sense of "well, I guess I could always do crim". Everyone I know tries to avoid these applicants. For starters they are almost inevitably bad hires because they 1. think they're better than everyone else they work with and 2. they plan to leave just as soon as some one offers them a toehold in an office tower. So they're hard to train, and often not worth the effort of training anyway. The fastest way to cull these kinds of applicants from your interview rounds is to look at their course selection and their ECs. By third year, if there's no indication on paper that criminal law was ever seriously considered, they don't get an interview, and I don't care if they have three A's and edited the law school journal.- 1
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chance me!: 2.77 cgpa, taking LSAT next summer, lots of experience and great references
Hey! So I took a 5th year to try to increase my GPA (and because I switched majors and needed some other courses) since I thought that LSAC would only count the grades that my school counted towards my GPA. I just wanted to warn you that LSAC kept all my grades in when calculating my GPA. So the C+ I was trying to keep out of my GPA was included in my LSAC GPA, although I think that its effect would've been diluted. -
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chance me!: 2.77 cgpa, taking LSAT next summer, lots of experience and great references
meant to respond to this sooner sorry! I understand what you mean though! I don't intend to half-ass the LSAT whatsoever + I intend to get at least a 3.0 by the end of my undergrad, and am pushing for a 3.2. I am also currently looking at different drop policies and applying based off of that, but I appreciate your overall advice!! Sounds good, thank you for your advice!
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